I don’t think so. They’re the past. PtE is not the future of gaming powered by web3. They’re unsustainable as currently presented.
So before investing there, perhaps it’s worth thinking about it a bit, same way that I examined NFTs.
The excitement of PtE, the way it’s being introduced as a concept, is all about the idea that “instead of paying to play (either upfront or to buy gems and powerups), gamers can now be paid for gaming”.
Much is being made of examples like @AxieInfinity ‘s “Scholarships” which are enabling some people in the Philippines to pay their bills just by playing the game. Good for them, I guess, though I wouldn’t count on that lasting too long.
To see why, we can just simply draw a diagram with the money flows for a PtE game, as we did for NFTs, remembering that the game won’t be able to just create money out of thin air. Money in = Money out.
It’s a bit more confusing, because the investors, like in a regular business, are now separate from the “users”, or in this case “players”, the people to whom the product is being pitched.
Yet more obfuscation is possible by adding things like “scholarships programs”, like Axie has, which makes it even more confusing. It really looks like someone is going to be earning their daily wages playing a pokemon game all day!
So let’s simplify back a bit. First of all, the Scholars are just a type of sponsored player, so they get merged in with “players”. They’re just players who only take and don’t actually put anything in via M2.
Then the regular investors, VCs, etc… should they be in there at all? Well, there’s a couple of options.
Most likely is they’ve invested the traditional way, by buying shares in the company. If so, they will be getting their money out upon a liquidity event.
In that case, their only input to the diagram is to provide an initial pile of cash, most of which is likely to be spent on the team and various costs of getting the project up to speed.
Much worse for the project, imho, is if they put in investment by buying tokens like AXS or whatever, because then they will be getting their money out much sooner, and instead of being paid off by stock market investors, it’s players who will foot the bill.
What about those NFT investors? Well, taking examples like Axie and Illuvium, and many others, they’re basically people looking to grow their money by… you guessed it, selling to later investors.
This is starting to get quite dubious, right?
I think the best thing to do with the NFT investors there, given that for most of these games, players have to buy NFTs to play anyway, is to lump them in with the players. So we get this simplified diagram.
Folks, welcome to the PlayToEarn model.
On average, because maths, most players *must* lose money. At best, if the team costs absolutely nothing at all, and the project has no costs whatsoever, the players will break even on average. But games cost money to run.
There’s a very familiar setting where you might have encountered games of chance and skill where, on average, players tend to lose the money they put at stake.
Now I’m not here to judge gambling as a gaming model. In a way, everything we do in life is gambling – doing stuff that has a cost in expectation of a payoff that exceeds that cost.
But I like to call a cat a cat.
PtE/Gambling is not new. It’s the oldest thing in the world! For fun, here’s a video of Yudishtira gambling his kingdom and freedom away thousands of years ago in Peter Brook’s excellent production of the Mahabharata. I time-tagged it for you.
I’m a long-time gamer. I started playing on a C64. The first game I bought was Civilization (the first of the series!). I’ve gamed all my life. I love games. I think they’re great.
And I love web3, I think it has huge potential to transform everything.
So when all these people on youtube and whatever claim that *this* is the “future of gaming”…
I’m not buying it.
This is the ancient past, reheated and served up again.
Gambling has proven quite resilient as an industry and I’m sure it has a place in our future much as it has in our past. And investing in gambling companies might well be quite profitable. Many poker companies out there make huge profits.
And casinos, despite the fact that everyone knows that “the house always wins”, still attract huge crowds all the time.
It’s a pretty solid business. But don’t tell me it’s the “future of gaming”.
If gambling/PtE is not the future of gaming, then what is? What impact will web3 have on gaming? Where’s the real stuff, not these microwaved fumes of addictive pastimes?
I have a couple thoughts about it. And I could be totally wrong, but I have a hunch.
To me, any “web3 gaming” has to start with a fundamental shift in what we’re looking at as the primary actor.
A simplistic extrapolation that is at least sustainable is that maybe games now will start providing NFT items as well as value in the form of entertainment.
Like, when you find a Stone of Jordan in web3-Diablo, it’s now an NFT in your wallet.
That’s interesting but not super exciting to me. Yes, it does unlock collectible value for items that have for the last 20 years been locked inside digital fortresses owned by large gaming companies.
So in an alternate timeline where NFTs appeared long ago, maybe I’d have a Corruptor set, collected back when it was fresh off the WoW presses, and I’d be able to resell it in 10 years to a collector who just wants it.
mild yawn, though there’s lots of $$$ in that.
This model would also mean that players get to participate in the value exchanges in games. It’s something @cdixon pointed out in one of his excellent threads. NFTs reduce the take rate, enable ppl to participate.
Most gamers will have heard of the seminal game “Doom”. If you were into gaming and alive at that time, you probably played Doom and Doom 2 to the bone.
If you had some sort of internet connection, or even just access to those magazines that came with CDs that had cool stuff on them, you might also recall an explosion of user content for Doom. Mods, re-skins, everything.
Doom definitely triggered the kind of creativity explosion I’ve talked about before. They helped it by making level editors available and I guess they encouraged it in many ways.
But those creators had no economic stake in the game.
I don’t blame id software for this. This was the economic model at the time. If anything, they were ahead of things by distributing as shareware and being so permissive of mods and so on. They did good. Thanks for Doom!
What I see NFTs enabling, though, is a more deliberate and more effective blurring of boundaries between creators, players, and games (and the companies that make them).
And not only between a single game and its players and creative superfans, but between games and other games too. The ecosystem gets much more powerfully linked up, with economic ties merged in with the rest.
This becomes possible with web3 because it creates economic incentives for everyone to do this. Because it makes creative explosions more likely. And any game should want that.
Smart and visionary game creators must be thinking about this already.
The poster-child for web3 gaming, at the moment, is not AxieInfinity.
Game designers that want to pioneer the future of gaming would do well, imho, to take lessons from that humble project, and make openness, composability, and a deliberate relinquishment of control, become part of their game design vocabulary.
Personally, I’m excited to see this unfold over the next decade. Let a million composable Doom flowers bloom.
And if it creates enormous entertainment value for millions, as surely it will, the money will follow, don’t worry about that.
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